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Siouxsie
27-01-2009, 11:05 AM
Absent fathers who fail to pay towards their children's upbringing could have their passports and driving licences summarily seized by bureaucrats.

Child maintenance officials will be able to stop 'deadbeat dads' from going on holidays and business trips abroad or using their cars.

It represents the first time civil servants and Government agencies will be able to bypass the normal legal process in this way.

At present, the Child Maintenance and Enforcement Commission must apply to the courts to have a negligent father's driving licence or passport cancelled.

But under legislation being unveiled by Work and Pensions Secretary James Purnell tomorrow, civil servants will be able to sign the orders themselves.

Critics - already alarmed by a series of Big Brother measures from the Government - were angered last night by the introduction of the so-called 'administrative-justice plans'.

Millions of pounds in maintenance was collected after similar schemes were imposed in the U.S. and Australia.

Mr Purnell will justify the move as essential to deal with parents who refuse to fulfil their financial responsibilities to their children.

He said: 'We are supporting parents in these tough times, but for those who choose not to support their own kids, we will not stand by and do nothing.
'If a parent refuses to pay up, we will stop them travelling abroad or even using their car.

'We want fair rules for everybody. That means giving people the support they need, but in return expecting them to live up to their responsibilities.'
Defaulters would simply receive notification from the CMEC that they could no longer drive or go abroad.

A source at the Department for Work and Pensions said: 'Some go to great lengths to avoid paying. We will use all the enforcement tools possible to make them pay what they owe.'

The commission says the sanction will only be used as a 'last resort'.
But LibDem work and pensions spokesman Steve Webb said: 'In court, a judge decides whether something is justified, looks at the evidence and allows all sides to have their say.

'New Labour has never liked having its actions challenged by the courts or anyone else. But what happens when an official gets it wrong?'

In December 2007, the Lords' constitution committee warned that giving state officials the power to cancel passports would be a 'serious' curtailment of long-standing freedoms.

It added: 'Travel to and from one's country is a right of great significance and should only be curtailed after a rigorous decision process.'

The CMEC last year replaced the failed Child Support Agency, which was abolished after letting child maintenance arrears build up to £3.5billion.

bonjovibabe
27-01-2009, 11:15 AM
I will believe that wen I see it. They have told me they weregoing to do that to my ex before but they always come up with some new excuse why they havent

lisa1980
27-01-2009, 11:23 AM
I dont think it will happen im now getting the reality of what the csa say they will do and dont, and they seem very good at having the wrong info too.

yummymummy08
27-01-2009, 01:22 PM
i didnt belive it at first because my mum is going threw the exact thing atm with my dad they said if he didnt get in contact with them within 14 days he would get his driving licence taken away, 14 days came and went and he didnt get in contact with them and they took away his licence! and shock horrer... he got in contact with them 2 days later!

angel mum
29-01-2009, 04:31 PM
i have not used the CSA and have a private agreement. I know that if i did go to them he would just not pay anything. By taking his DL away - he would just turn round and say that he cant work therefore would not give me anything and it honestly would not bother him.

storm35
29-01-2009, 04:46 PM
My ex has been banned for driving for 12 months due to owing me 36 grand in total and i know i wont ever see it, as i have bene told that theres nothing else they can do, wont send the get to jail as it wont get my money and he still drives about.

ruthie
29-01-2009, 05:07 PM
Why don't they just stop the payments at source from the buggers wages that way perhaps the children would benefit, useless b lot they are.

MrTempleDene
29-01-2009, 05:28 PM
Before you all start

If I lose my driving license, I am unable to see my children 220 miles away! it costs over twice as much to travel by train and there is no way I could afford it.

And yes I pay child support, I have no choice, it's deucted at source. it's a pity as it means I often see my two children with not enough money to do much more than feed them.

I have no problem with this policy as long as it HAS to go through courts so there is transparency and a chance to put the non payers side across, and a chance to appeal.

By the way, statistically, it's a higher percentage of woman who refuse to pay the CSA when the situation is reversed.

Jen
29-01-2009, 06:02 PM
Before you all start

If I lose my driving license, I am unable to see my children 220 miles away! it costs over twice as much to travel by train and there is no way I could afford it.

And yes I pay child support, I have no choice, it's deucted at source. it's a pity as it means I often see my two children with not enough money to do much more than feed them.

I have no problem with this policy as long as it HAS to go through courts so there is transparency and a chance to put the non payers side across, and a chance to appeal.

By the way, statistically, it's a higher percentage of woman who refuse to pay the CSA when the situation is reversed.

I so agree with you, also if some men lose their driving licence then that can also stop them working...hence no money for anyone.
And you are right you never see the bad publicity about the women who refuse to pay.

ruthie
29-01-2009, 09:14 PM
Before you all start

If I lose my driving license, I am unable to see my children 220 miles away! it costs over twice as much to travel by train and there is no way I could afford it.

And yes I pay child support, I have no choice, it's deucted at source. it's a pity as it means I often see my two children with not enough money to do much more than feed them.

I have no problem with this policy as long as it HAS to go through courts so there is transparency and a chance to put the non payers side across, and a chance to appeal.

By the way, statistically, it's a higher percentage of woman who refuse to pay the CSA when the situation is reversed.

But they are only going to take away the licences and passports of those who refuse to pay, so serves them right, I know for one that if they took away dd ex's licence he would drive with out one as I'm sure many would do so lot of good that would do.