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saluki
27-12-2007, 03:07 PM
My other half has just called me from work, one of the girls he works with told him her cousin got taken to A&E at St georges Hospital on Christmas Eve with tummy cramps and the runs, they made her wait ages, didnt even examin her made her feel like a pain in the backside, and told her she had a virus and sent her home with paracetamol, when at home she gave birth to a baby that was dead as the cord had snapped, she didnt even know she was pregnant!! can you believe the hospital didnt even check her!! she is only 21, when the ambulance got to her they said if she had been checked properly in the hospital this wouldnt have happened and baby would have been ok!! She is now in the same hospital on a maternity ward!! around new born babies, im so angry!! I said i hope she sues and goes to the newspapers!!:no:

KeznJay
27-12-2007, 03:09 PM
That is horrible i really feel for her it makes me SO angry when hospitals do this to people

saluki
27-12-2007, 03:13 PM
That is horrible i really feel for her it makes me SO angry when hospitals do this to people
I know, That A&E are terrible anyway, i took my oh there when he has a serious nosebleed, it was bleeding like a tap for over 4 hours and they left him for 5 hours before they even looked at him. terrible!! x

lovinstepmum
27-12-2007, 03:29 PM
omg that is so sad, where is st georges hospital

saluki
27-12-2007, 03:31 PM
omg that is so sad, where is st georges hospital
Tooting In London!! Dont bother going there to A&E, Im having my babies there but the maternity ward and my midwife are lovely. x

lovinstepmum
27-12-2007, 03:36 PM
Tooting In London!! Dont bother going there to A&E, Im having my babies there but the maternity ward and my midwife are lovely. x

i did wonder where it was because many hospitals have the same name around the country, it is soooo sad

A&E is very busy especially around xmas but it gives them no excuse and i hope this woman sues their butts off

saluki
27-12-2007, 03:47 PM
i did wonder where it was because many hospitals have the same name around the country, it is soooo sad

A&E is very busy especially around xmas but it gives them no excuse and i hope this woman sues their butts off
me too and i hope she goes to the newspapers!! x

lovinstepmum
27-12-2007, 03:47 PM
definately

denise1981
27-12-2007, 03:49 PM
omg that is so sad, poor girl

Fudge Cake
27-12-2007, 06:09 PM
how awful, that is so so sad!

Laura@FYP
27-12-2007, 07:28 PM
Oh that is horrendous. Poor girl. That is just not right at all :no:

Whassat
27-12-2007, 07:34 PM
poor thing how awful,
only cos im nosey but do you know how far in the pgy she was? :kisshands:

sal1
27-12-2007, 07:36 PM
Aww thats awful, my thoughts are with her x :kisshands:

Lemon
27-12-2007, 08:11 PM
That is disgraceful! What makes me angry (because I had quite a snotty, up her own backside Dr when I was in hopsital with ds a little while ago) is that if it wasn't for patients they wouldn't have jobs!

How sad for the poor girl.

*Yvonne*
27-12-2007, 08:43 PM
Poor girl, I hope she sues for everything she can, that is not on at all. Thoughts are with her at this sad time.

Sadly it reminds me when my sister had my nephew, she was 23 weeks & 3 days pg, had mild stomach ache midwfire said it's a tummy upset & left it at that (this was about 11pm Weds night) my sis then gave birth to my nephew at around 2am Thurs morning & sadly he died when he was 3 days old.

sab_100
27-12-2007, 08:45 PM
poor girl! that is so awful and she shouldnt be on a mat ward. that is just thoughtless. x

Girlzmum
27-12-2007, 11:49 PM
Can I just say I work in my local A&E, one of the first things we do for a woman who has been admitted with abdominal pain is a pregnancy test (I've gotten that used to doing pg tests that I've nearly tested men a few times!). It is appalling that the department has neglected to do something so simple. I hope she's ok.

-Joy-
27-12-2007, 11:54 PM
Bloody hell thats horrific.

MW`s told me to go and get on with housework, I had rang complaining of pains ( I knew I was pg )

Less than 3 hrs later I gave birth on my bed, no pain relief, no MW, and 3 paramedics arrived when the head was already out.
And he was a month prem
But Im lucky, hes fine now after being in the SCBU.

That poor poor lass, Id sue the backsides off them
x

kate1
28-12-2007, 04:31 AM
omg thats sooo sad. brought a tear to my eye. i hope she sues them, i know its no consolation for losing a baby.

its terrible

lizzie
28-12-2007, 11:42 AM
omg thats so awful the poor girl

saluki
28-12-2007, 11:59 AM
poor thing how awful,
only cos im nosey but do you know how far in the pgy she was? :kisshands:
Full term. poor thing. xx

saluki
28-12-2007, 12:00 PM
Poor girl, I hope she sues for everything she can, that is not on at all. Thoughts are with her at this sad time.

Sadly it reminds me when my sister had my nephew, she was 23 weeks & 3 days pg, had mild stomach ache midwfire said it's a tummy upset & left it at that (this was about 11pm Weds night) my sis then gave birth to my nephew at around 2am Thurs morning & sadly he died when he was 3 days old.
OMG thats awfull, It makes me really worried, My midwife seems lovely i hope i can trust her. xx

saluki
28-12-2007, 12:02 PM
Can I just say I work in my local A&E, one of the first things we do for a woman who has been admitted with abdominal pain is a pregnancy test (I've gotten that used to doing pg tests that I've nearly tested men a few times!). It is appalling that the department has neglected to do something so simple. I hope she's ok.
Ahh thankyou, I know your not all the same, Im an auxillary nurse and that would have also been my suggestion along with an examination of her tummy, but that A&E dept are something else, they are really so uncaring and never seem to be full staffed. x

Girlzmum
28-12-2007, 12:14 PM
I'm still completely stunned they just didn't bother - is it any wonder the NHS gets such a bad press now.

We actually have a big box of pg tests sitting in the sluice as pretty much everyone gets a urine test as soon as they come into majors, doing a pg test is considered normal! It can be hard, I recently had a 15 yo with abdo pain and her test was positive, she had no clue and was horrified. I'm a bank nursing auxiliary while I'm doing my nursing degree.

saluki
28-12-2007, 12:22 PM
I'm still completely stunned they just didn't bother - is it any wonder the NHS gets such a bad press now.

We actually have a big box of pg tests sitting in the sluice as pretty much everyone gets a urine test as soon as they come into majors, doing a pg test is considered normal! It can be hard, I recently had a 15 yo with abdo pain and her test was positive, she had no clue and was horrified. I'm a bank nursing auxiliary while I'm doing my nursing degree.
I know, If your not doing the job because you care why bother?? thats the impression i get from the nurses there. they cant be bothered. sad but true. x

runragged
28-12-2007, 12:24 PM
How sad, poor girl. :(

I agree with Collette, our A&E dept test all females of child bearing age presenting with abdo pain for pregnancy pretty much as standard, if only to rule it out completely. I actually thought this was routinely done throughout the UK, but obviously not. I can't believe it didn't occur to them to check, what a tragic mistake to make.

I'm ashamed to work for the NHS these days, it's a target-driven disgrace. :(

saluki
28-12-2007, 01:00 PM
How sad, poor girl. :(

I agree with Collette, our A&E dept test all females of child bearing age presenting with abdo pain for pregnancy pretty much as standard, if only to rule it out completely. I actually thought this was routinely done throughout the UK, but obviously not. I can't believe it didn't occur to them to check, what a tragic mistake to make.

I'm ashamed to work for the NHS these days, it's a target-driven disgrace. :(
I agree with you there hunnie. xx

yummymummy87
28-12-2007, 01:05 PM
oh no that is so sad, i would deffo sue the hospital

*Sarahl*
31-12-2007, 04:47 PM
I'm lost for words! That poor woman. I can't believe they missed something like that.

Jacks Aunty
31-12-2007, 05:02 PM
Thats tragic.
I hopeshe does the right thing & goes to the papers.
Even though I imagine she will be well compensated no amount of money makes up for the loss of a baby & the way she was treated

daisymay
31-12-2007, 08:12 PM
She won't get that much compensation as it is intended to compensate and put you in the position you would have been and sadly the life of a baby is not worth much in purely financial terms. She may get a bit for pain and suffering but the stillbirth is not going to affect, eg, her earning capacity, life style etc. She may get some money not to pursue it.

I think the sad thing here is that hte nurses are probably horrified but they get so much young girls (and boys) coming in at this time of year, dead drunk and probably thought she was just another one who needed to sleep it off. I am not excusing them but just showing them some compassion too - they do have a very hard job especially at this time of year (and no I am not a nurse!).

Katiequiggle
31-12-2007, 09:10 PM
Oh the poor girl. Joe had to have a general to have stitches in his head there when he was 4 and he was only there a day and came home with gastroenteritus, its filthy there.

angelcake71
01-01-2008, 05:33 PM
I am shocked and saddened by this....most doctors would dp thorough checks/examinations etc before releasing a patient.....did they not examine her stomach???

kate1
01-01-2008, 06:09 PM
She may get a bit for pain and suffering but the stillbirth is not going to affect, eg, her earning capacity, life style etc. She may get some money not to pursue it.



it may affect her earnings ect...she may end up with severe depressiona nd be unable to work. i cant imagine being in her position the poor lass :kisshands:

-Joy-
01-01-2008, 06:11 PM
it may affect her earnings ect...she may end up with severe depressiona nd be unable to work. i cant imagine being in her position the poor lass :kisshands:

I agree, things like this can have a profound effect in many many ways, it may even stop her wanting another child ever again

Ok not physically ( or who knows ) but mentally.. Poor lass.

kate1
01-01-2008, 06:54 PM
I agree, things like this can have a profound effect in many many ways, it may even stop her wanting another child ever again

Ok not physically ( or who knows ) but mentally.. Poor lass.

yes i can relate to this in a way. i used to work in a nursery and lost a baby while i worked there. i was about 5 weeks when i miscarried and i hated going to work as being round the children reminded me of my baby i had lost. when i found out i was preg with lily-mae i left as i couldnt hack it. sorry if that made no sense whatso ever

Easties
01-01-2008, 07:01 PM
Poor Poor girl thats awful

I would be screaming from the hill tops to anyone that would listen and that includes the papers
Not for the money as no amount of money could replace a baby weather she knew about it or not
But for the fact i would want to make damn sure that i had done my best to make sure it never happened again

Gen6
02-01-2008, 01:15 AM
My word i can't believe that the doctors can get away with that! That poor girl to be so young and lose a baby that way.

angelcake71
02-01-2008, 02:58 PM
the fact she was full term as well makes it so much more tragic.....the fact that they `are busy` is no excuse,I have also previously worked in a hospital,and as others have said...any female with abdo pains would have tests examinations to find the cause!!

bikemad
02-01-2008, 08:43 PM
Just saw this-how disgusting!!!!!!!!

ambyuk
02-01-2008, 09:24 PM
Oh that is so negligent! I hate when hospitals do that sort of thing. 3 weeks after my son was born I was in such bad pain I was vomiting and it took them hours to even triage me at one hospital I went to in the States... my husband was so upset because he said I could have died basically if it had been complications from the birth. I went to another hospital the next day when the pain returned and they were 1000 times better.

That is simply unacceptable and I hope someone is held accountable for it.

Trinity
03-01-2008, 06:44 PM
Whereas I think the situation is sad and definitely negligent, I cannot see what there is to gain by going to the newspapers!

I cannot stand this culture that we live in that as soon as something goes wrong the first thing people say is "sue them" or "go to the newspapers"!

Did she have absolutely no idea she was pregnant? I do think a full investigation certainly needs to be done in the hope that it doesn't happen to anyone else.

As many have said no amount of compensation will bring back the baby, so maybe the money would be better spent in order to prevent these things from happening!

-Joy-
03-01-2008, 06:53 PM
I think ppl sue for a variety of reasons, one of them being this doesnt happen again and to make someone "pay" for it. For all we know, some cooky doc/nurse may be missing too many things in patients, and a tradegy will and has occured.
Also the "name and shame" thing comes into it, hospitals follow stringent rules, and heres a "good" example of a **** up for want of better words. So I doubt this is one hospital who will win hossy of the year.

No I agree, it wont bring the baby back, and thats a fact.
Its such a shame also, that the medical profession are on there knees at the min - and things like this occur sadly in this day and age.

Who knows what will become of it all.

Trinity
03-01-2008, 07:05 PM
for all we know, some cooky doc/nurse may be missing too many things in patients, and a tradegy will and has occured.
Also the "name and shame" thing comes into it, hospitals follow stringent rules, and heres a "good" example of a **** up for want of better words. So I doubt this is one hospital who will win hossy of the year.

No I agree, it wont bring the baby back, and thats a fact.
Its such a shame also, that the medical profession are on there knees at the min - and things like this occur sadly in this day and age.

Who knows what will become of it all.

That's just it, Joy none of knows what really happened.

Yes, maybe there should be a name and shame policy but it is just said too often about going to the newspapers. If something so tragic had happened to me, the last thing that I would be thinking about would be giving some tabloid paper my story to twist.

When I was pregnant, I heard all sorts of horror stories about the hospital I would be giving birth in, mums were pratically lining up to dish the dirt.........I gave birth twice and had absolutely no problems, the staff admittidly were run off their feet but they done all they could and I was happy with everything.

Sadly mistakes are made, we all make them everyday and sadly when a member of a hospital staff makes a mistake there is a life involved and that's makes it a bit more real and unacceptable but we don't know the full facts of this story, so who are we to judge?

I just find it sad that everyone is quick to ask for compensation when things do go wrong but what about when things go right? To me, hospitals and their staff are not praised enough.

I do accept that this is a tragic and very sad case and yes, heads should roll as she should have been checked thoroughly, regardless of how busy or manic the A & E was.

I do hope that the girl in question gets all the medical help she requires now as she has to come to terms with a lot of things, the fact that she was pregnant in the first place and didn't know about it and then to lose the baby will have a huge impact on her. Let's hope that she is now getting the care that she deserves.