MY apologies

[sadierhianne]

Hmm it seems that one of the forums that had a post droped on tonight about Christopher's fund has posted complaining and accusing is of spamming,

I have posted on that forum and said this:

HUGE Apologies to all on ...........
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I wanted to come and apologise because it is clear that i have offended you all.

Firstly, i am responsible for the considered spamming, i wanted to assure you that in no way was it intended to be spamming, it was done simply to help and support a good cause - namely Christopher's fund, In no way does it feel right to have the post on another forum linked to those nasty spmamming messages for viagra etc.

I apologise because in my nature i like to help people and i really didn't see any harm or how anyone would be offended at people attempting to help to raise funds for a very good cause - this is a charity which was formed after the sad loss of life for a very young child. I wanted to help a friend broadcast this and get some support from anywhere we can.

I must also add that the other forum is simply a meeting place and the forum management have nothing to do with this, this was just me today wanting to gather some support, i think in the same way as any mother would want for a cause that might be able to save childrens lives - i can't imagine how how i would feel if my child was severely ill and needed help that wasn't there due to lack of funds.

It really was only done for a good cause, however, i can see that you are upset, angry, offended and that the post on here has breached the rules.

I can only apologise and hope that you can see the good in this and not judge it as a negative or as a vendetta from another forum, nothing to do with forum wars, just a simple need to broadcast a good cause.

No spammin intended either and as far as i was aware, only one message should have been posted.

Anne

So my apologies to anyone who may be offended by anything -

hmm you try your best for a good cause and and and and.

[Sarah]

Hmm it seems that one of the forums that had a post droped on tonight about Christopher's fund has posted complaining and accusing is of spamming,

I have posted on that forum and said this:

HUGE Apologies to all on ...........
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I wanted to come and apologise because it is clear that i have offended you all.

Firstly, i am responsible for the considered spamming, i wanted to assure you that in no way was it intended to be spamming, it was done simply to help and support a good cause - namely Christopher's fund, In no way does it feel right to have the post on another forum linked to those nasty spmamming messages for viagra etc.

I apologise because in my nature i like to help people and i really didn't see any harm or how anyone would be offended at people attempting to help to raise funds for a very good cause - this is a charity which was formed after the sad loss of life for a very young child. I wanted to help a friend broadcast this and get some support from anywhere we can.

I must also add that the other forum is simply a meeting place and the forum management have nothing to do with this, this was just me today wanting to gather some support, i think in the same way as any mother would want for a cause that might be able to save childrens lives - i can't imagine how how i would feel if my child was severely ill and needed help that wasn't there due to lack of funds.

It really was only done for a good cause, however, i can see that you are upset, angry, offended and that the post on here has breached the rules.

I can only apologise and hope that you can see the good in this and not judge it as a negative or as a vendetta from another forum, nothing to do with forum wars, just a simple need to broadcast a good cause.

No spammin intended either and as far as i was aware, only one message should have been posted.

Anne

So my apologies to anyone who may be offended by anything -

hmm you try your best for a good cause and and and and.


Oh Anne you are such a lovely kind lady. I'm gobsmacked that this has been classed as spamming - it never entered my head. I've been so touched tonight by the love and support and the way you and others have gone out of your way to help and to promote our charity. It's such a shame that it's been tainted in this way.
Please don't be upset and don't stop being who you are. I really appreciate all you have tried to do and fully understand your intentions.
No apology needed or wanted by me.
Love and hugs.
Sarah x

[Ravenfire]

I personally dont see charity posts like that as spamming particularly when its about a regular members site but obviously every forum is different. Dont feel bad Anne you did it with the best of intentions.

[sadierhianne]

No i am really upset, i just left another post in response - i won't copy a thread because it wonh't go down well but this is my response.



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I don't know how many posts was left on here but it was the intention that it was only one - and yes my idea came to target people - any people and it was done in an open manner and in no way was the way it was executed designed to be underhand or anything really.

I am really quite upset that this has happened because now all the publicity for this cause has been removed from the very forum that i posted on this afternoon to gain support - it seems quite unfair when there was no intention of offending anyone in any manner despite your offence taken at the way it was as you say executed - there was nothing untoward intended. It did not occur to me at any stage that there was anything wrong - it was a method of raising funds and if that means posting in public, running a marathon or making a cd then it had to happen.

I have apologised and explained my situation, i just hope that you can seperate my need to raise some funds for someone from the other forum thing because that really was not on any adgenda.

It really is a shame that you can't just put the post back up again to help raise some funds, the cd is a lovely cd and it makes me sad to think that this has had to be seen in a negative way today. It seems on both forums where i have also apologised.

Apologised for trying to do a bit of good.

Thank you

Anne

So you aren't cross with me here then?

[Daffs]

No, I'm not anyway. It's not as if you were posting your own site to get loads of people to buy things for your own profit is it?!!

[Easties]

My opinion is that you are trying to do something for a good cause hun the mods should of checked on the other website to check the link so they could see it wasnt spamming
how can anyone be upset about posting a link to a well worthy cause
hun i think you are fab and i for one am not upset with you i think its brilliant what you and everyone else does for this cause
keep going hun and dont be put off xxx

[Ravenfire]

No not cross at all Anne honestly - please dont worry about it.

[knotjustjigs]

Anne actually i feel sick... feel really bad as if i have done something really bad, when all we wanted to do was promote this fabulous worthwhile cause.. not sure i can add anything to your wonderfully worded reply so i wont even try..

Hugs

Ketty x

[Chell]

Were you banned Ketty?

[Sarah]

Anne actually i feel sick... feel really bad as if i have done something really bad, when all we wanted to do was promote this fabulous worthwhile cause.. not sure i can add anything to your wonderfully worded reply so i wont even try..

Hugs

Ketty x

You haven't done anything hun. Please don't worry about it. You should see the lovely pm's of support I'm having and even had an entry in my guest book as a direct result of one of the forums you posted on. I've sold 3 cd's today as a result of Anne's posting.
You are both wonderful worthwhile people. If only you could know that your actions have created some lovely, friendly warm comments and only one negative one which is totally cancelled out by all the good you have done.
I really appreciate what you have tried and succeeded in doing today - please don't stop.
We'll think of other ways to do this and just be more careful where we post from now you.
I want to say a huge THANK YOU for being compassionate and caring human beings and for following your heart.
Sarah x

[feistygal]

It's a shame what has happened but even without knowing which forum it was (although I am guessing another parenting forum) I imagine they reacted this way due to the rules of the forum and/or because of the long history of spammers and serious trouble making trolls on many of the parenting forums.

No matter how good your intentions (and none as good as yours Anne) you should always pm the mods/admin and ask for permission for this kind of posting on any forum.

Sorry that you've been so upset Anne, thats not fair at all.

Claire x

[Sarah]

It's a shame what has happened but even without knowing which forum it was (although I am guessing another parenting forum) I imagine they reacted this way due to the rules of the forum and/or because of the long history of spammers and serious trouble making trolls on many of the parenting forum.

No matter how good your intentions (and none as good as yours Anne) you should always pm the mods/admin and ask for permission for this kind of posting on any forum.

Sorry that you've been so upset Anne, thats not fair at all.

Claire x

Surely though each post should be judged on it's own merit? I know what you are saying and understand there has to be rules etc - but a charity cd?

[Chell]

Surely though each post should be judged on it's own merit? I know what you are saying and understand there has to be rules etc - but a charity cd?


Exactly, Claire, you post on several forums promoting your site. Is that not spamming too then (as many WAHPs do)? but this was for charity, not personal gain.

[knotjustjigs]

Ditto Sarah....

The forum concerned knew all about the charity and its worthwhile cause,it was only a minority that objected as per usual.


Chell the tempory ban has been lifted and i was referred to their forum etiquitte..

Ketty x

[Sarah]

Ditto Sarah....

The forum concerned knew all about the charity and its worthwhile cause,it was only a minority that objected as per usual.


Chell the tempory ban has been lifted and i was referred to their forum etiquitte..

Ketty x

I've had a lovely entry into the guestbook on the website as a direct result of what you all did. THank you x

[knotjustjigs]

Just read the guest book and it was all worthwhile...bless you Sarah x

Ketty x

[feistygal]

What I wanted to say didn't quite come out right Sarah - sorry!

Basically though, its the same as this forum isn't it? There are rules and regulations about what you may and may not post as there are on all forums really.

All you normally have to do is pm the mod/admin and ask for permission to post and its given for that kind of thing. It's really a shame that posts made with such good intentions have ended up with all this hurt.

It's really great that you've sold 3 more cd's today as a result of Anne's posting :happy72: I really hope the sales continue to go well Sarah, I think your daughter is amazing for doing this.

Claire x

[feistygal]

Exactly, Claire, you post on several forums promoting your site. Is that not spamming too then (as many WAHPs do)? but this was for charity, not personal gain.

But only within the rules Chell. I didn't mean it like that - Anne said she couldn't understand what had happened and I was just offering an explanation as someone who has been on parenting forums for 10 years and knowing the history of what has gone on in the past.

We all know Anne had the best intentions and isn't a spammer, its just a shame that the mods/admins on the other site don't.

[sadierhianne]

I think that it was the spamming accusation and the comparrison to viagra etc that upset me -

Oh and the fact that they had removed the post.

How could this be compared to people spamming for viagra - which is a huge problem in both my inboxes right now -

anyway i was big enough to go and apologise but then i think i resent further that my honesty was challenged. I really had no idea that i might upset anyone - like was said above people leave thei signature on forums for self gain daily - i had no idea that it was against any rules to go and leave a message on a forum promoting a charity and because it is a charity i never in a million years thought that anyone could object.

I accept that it isn'[t acceptible though - well apparently though it is because it wasn't the message that was wrong, it was the way i had organised the message to be dropped? I am not sure how my reasoning IN PUBLIC, nothing underhand there then, nothing dishonest, all done in the open and in full view, is wrong, it was an idea, i mentioned it, considered the best way to deliver careful information, deligated so that everyone added the right and useful infor to an individual website - now please someone tell me where is the harm? I really can't get my head around it - if there was nothing wrong with the message what was wrong - does it matter that it was decided to leave the same message on more than one forum?

Its like telling comic relief that they can only broadcast to one viewer in the UK - it doesn't quite work like that does it?

And whilst i have to respect their forum rules, well which bit broke the rules? The actual post didn't break the rules, if i have read the posts correctly -

I hope that lots of the ladies on that forum saw that post - i hope that it was worthwhile.

I am actually gutted that you have only had three sales all day - i'd have hoped that it would have generated a few more.

xxx

[Sarah]

What I wanted to say didn't quite come out right Sarah - sorry!

Basically though, its the same as this forum isn't it? There are rules and regulations about what you may and may not post as there are on all forums really.

All you normally have to do is pm the mod/admin and ask for permission to post and its given for that kind of thing. It's really a shame that posts made with such good intentions have ended up with all this hurt.

It's really great that you've sold 3 more cd's today as a result of Anne's posting :happy72: I really hope the sales continue to go well Sarah, I think your daughter is amazing for doing this.

Claire x

Thank you Claire.
I agree that forums all have their own rules and regulations and they all have to be adhered to and I take on board your point about a pm. I feel though that a simple pm from those affected by the posts would have been all that was needed. One forum did just that - quitely and politely sent a pm, no fuss no banning, just explained, with compassion to the person concerned why they couldn't allow the post and why the thread was going to be removed. There was no hurt or upset caused, it was dealt with in a very private, caring and understanding way.

[Sarah]

I think that it was the spamming accusation and the comparrison to viagra etc that upset me -

Oh and the fact that they had removed the post.

How could this be compared to people spamming for viagra - which is a huge problem in both my inboxes right now -

anyway i was big enough to go and apologise but then i think i resent further that my honesty was challenged. I really had no idea that i might upset anyone - like was said above people leave thei signature on forums for self gain daily - i had no idea that it was against any rules to go and leave a message on a forum promoting a charity and because it is a charity i never in a million years thought that anyone could object.

I accept that it isn'[t acceptible though - well apparently though it is because it wasn't the message that was wrong, it was the way i had organised the message to be dropped? I am not sure how my reasoning IN PUBLIC, nothing underhand there then, nothing dishonest, all done in the open and in full view, is wrong, it was an idea, i mentioned it, considered the best way to deliver careful information, deligated so that everyone added the right and useful infor to an individual website - now please someone tell me where is the harm? I really can't get my head around it - if there was nothing wrong with the message what was wrong - does it matter that it was decided to leave the same message on more than one forum?

Its like telling comic relief that they can only broadcast to one viewer in the UK - it doesn't quite work like that does it?

And whilst i have to respect their forum rules, well which bit broke the rules? The actual post didn't break the rules, if i have read the posts correctly -

I hope that lots of the ladies on that forum saw that post - i hope that it was worthwhile.

I am actually gutted that you have only had three sales all day - i'd have hoped that it would have generated a few more.

xxx


I'm very hurt that a fund raising cd in memory of a little boy could be compared to the selling of viagra.

[sadierhianne]

I don't understand why "OTHER" forums activity has to affect "ANOTHER" forum - do they all sit and watch what is happening on each others forums?

Crikey when my forum is up and running there's no way i will be rushing back to MZ to see if the same person has posted on here.

maybe i am just a bit thick because i can't get my head to make any sense at all.

[sadierhianne]

I'm very hurt that a fund raising cd in memory of a little boy could be compared to the selling of viagra.

Hugs - i am just getting more and more angry.

[Seren]

Not sure what to say, I think your apology was well worded and came imo from the heart, imo that should have been the end of it.

Many posts on forums breaks rules in may different ways, and we are mature enough to realise that it happens in life. Many posts on the boards are for self gain in many different ways, we choose what to read and what to ignore.

If something offends me, then it's bygones, it is cyber life and many of our words are often taken in the wrong spirit because of the way we craft our words etc etc.

I have no rationale to explain why they reacted in the way they did, but I think what you did would not and did not offend me in any way. Sarah's promotion of her site does not and any such site promotion would not offend me ever, there is nothing to offend.

I don't know what site it was but there is only one I think that would react in that way and that would probably be down to historic reasons, having said that I know Sarah is well known and is known to be a real human being and not a hoaxer.

I really hope you both don't feel bad and let down by people.

I hope my ramble has made sense

[knotjustjigs]

Hugs - i am just getting more and more angry.

Dont get angry sweetie, what we did was not malicious or for personal gain and those who are making you angry should feel shameful...
Mama B i think the majority will think like you do...

Ketty x

[wokkies]

Not sure what to say, I think your apology was well worded and came imo from the heart, imo that should have been the end of it.

Many posts on forums breaks rules in may different ways, and we are mature enough to realise that it happens in life. Many posts on the boards are for self gain in many different ways, we choose what to read and what to ignore.

If something offends me, then it's bygones, it is cyber life and many of our words are often taken in the wrong spirit because of the way we craft our words etc etc.

I have no rationale to explain why they reacted in the way they did, but I think what you did would not and did not offend me in any way. Sarah's promotion of her site does not and any such site promotion would not offend me ever, there is nothing to offend.

I don't know what site it was but there is only one I think that would react in that way and that would probably be down to historic reasons, having said that I know Sarah is well known and is known to be a real human being and not a hoaxer.

I really hope you both don't feel bad and let down by people.

I hope my ramble has made sense
:iagree: very well said
and ""cutey""b ""cutey""b to sadierhianne

[Tess]

Saidherhianne (sp) don't be upset,. you have done so much to help Sarah and her family. just by getting off your butt and doing something about it is worthwhile enough..
you should be proud of yourself..:yes:
well done. :kisshands: :kisshands: :kisshands:

[Daffs]

:iagree: very well said
and ""cutey""b ""cutey""b to sadierhianne

:exactly: :iagree:

[Katiequiggle]

Just remember that no press is bad press and everyones rushing to look what all the fuss is about and lots of them will buy one too. Its just a few twats with nothing better to do, don't take any notice, we all care and support you and that's all you need to know.

[knotjustjigs]

Just remember that no press is bad press and everyones rushing to look what all the fuss is about and lots of them will buy one too. Its just a few twats with nothing better to do, don't take any notice, we all care and support you and that's all you need to know.

lol ! go Katie..my sentiments too..

[Lemon]

Are you bloody kidding me ? I can't believe what I have been reading on this thread ! Good grief, people need to get a life.

[knotjustjigs]

I know, we were/are as shocked as you!

We only did it too boost Christopers fund raising.........

[Chell]

Just remember that no press is bad press and everyones rushing to look what all the fuss is about and lots of them will buy one too. Its just a few twats with nothing better to do, don't take any notice, we all care and support you and that's all you need to know.

Very true, you wouldn't believe the number of hits I have had since The Sun printed Mr Tumbles sex fumble :cheesy::hysterica

Good plan Sarah, you could contact The Sun about your fumble with ................ :hysterica

[Sarah]

It's true about the publicity :yes: Sold another CD today too :happy72:

[sadierhianne]

Katie, i can't believe that you have been able to use language like that on here:hysterica

Awww feeling much better today after reading this - i don't think that man will ever be excused though - i went and had a read on there and was shocked to read that a moderatro suggested two class A drugs for weight loss - openly on a forum, yet that was allowed and a lovely little charity post was removed -

Right i am off to see who knows anyone famous............. we will find mrs O

[smirnoff]

This is just palin ridiculous imho... spamming is different imho... i odnt want to know about viagra, i dont want silly herbal weightloss pills that cost a fortune and dont work, i dont want to put money i havent got into some plan.... but this is charity... i cant see that you have done anything wrong.. im surprised to say the least.. but im glad that it has raised sales....

[Ravenfire]

I wonder if 'that man' reads these forums, and i'm sure we'd all like to see which moderator is recommend class A drugs for weightloss.

Im sure he does if not others do

Please lets not turn this into some sort of forum war its really not necessary!

Im going to close this thread now