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Siouxsie
16-02-2007, 03:24 PM
If you are 16 or over and haven't yet got a ten-year adult passport, then you should apply for one BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF APRIL 2007. And if you have a friend or family member in this position then let them know, quick!

This is why:

On March 26th this year, the Identity and Passport Service (did you even know they'd changed the name?) opens some new offices as part of the build up to the ID card scheme that the government wants to introduce. By the end of the year there will be 69 of these interrogation centres, and people applying for their first adult passport from April 2007 will the guinea-pigs for a process the government is calling "Authentication by Interview".

There's NOTHING in it for you - though the government is currently spending lots of taxpayers money trying to tell young people there is.

All the information collected will be kept on file for ever. It will certainly end up more expensive than the £66 passports currently cost, too, since you'll have to pay for officials to gather a dossier on you and the perform an "intrusive interview" as part of the price - as well as losing a day of your life to visit an interrogation centre.

If you want to know more about how things will work once the system is in place, please scroll down.

If you care about your freedoms, and not having government officials poking around in your private life - or your friends' and family's - then please apply for your first adult passport BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF APRIL 2007, and pass this message on.

You could save yourself or someone close to you a lot of trouble.


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How ID interrogations will work:

When you apply for a passport you will be asked to give lots of information about yourself: official numbers, addresses for the last few years, your educational institutions, that sort of thing. And you'll sign to declare that it's the truth.

That information will be used to look up everything that can be found out about you on all the government and private sector databases they can lay their hands on: school records, social services, police, credit checking, perhaps family details... to build a single dossier on you containing personal information. "Data-rape", some people call it.

First a few people, then every new applicant, will be called in to their nearest interrogation centre. There you will be fingerprinted and photographed (once they have installed the equipment), and put through an "intrusive interview" - the government's own words - to check that you can give answers about private details of your life that agree with the official ones. If you can, you'll get your passport. If not... it is not clear, but trying to get a passport under 'false pretenses' - if the computer says "no"
- could be quite serious. If nothing else, it will mean delay and more intrusion.

In fact, the government has already estimated that 1 in 4 people who apply under this new procedure will have to cancel their trip because they don't get their passport in time.

The government's plan is that all passports will be issued like this eventually. But you can take simple action now to keep off the database for ten years. And ALL opposition parties have now promised to abolish the ID scheme - so if you escape for 10 years, you may escape for ever.

If you haven't got one already, get yourself a full ten-year passport now.
As long as you apply before many interrogation centres are open, and the system is fully operational, your chances of avoiding data-rape are good.
And by doing so you help to stop the same thing happening to everyone else by telling Tony Blair and his bullying government to "Take a hike".

For more information on the progress of passport procedures, check out http://www.renewforfreedom.org - the Identity and Passport Service website currently tells you very little.

Get a passport NOW. And tell your friends, if you think their private lives should be their own.

smirnoff
16-02-2007, 03:27 PM
thats horrifying, but i spose in this day and age i should have expected it!!

Thanks for sharing hunni

Trinity
16-02-2007, 05:36 PM
My passport runs out in July, wonder if I should just get one now?

ruthie
16-02-2007, 05:50 PM
I have just got a new one don't need it until Sept but knew this was coming about. Won't be long before they bar code us all.

hector
16-02-2007, 05:59 PM
another reason for me to get off my arse and have my photo taken need one for my driving licence and now my passport, but i hate having my photo taken,unless i could use my wedding photo's the only rescent ones i have and there almost 2 years old

Macaroni
16-02-2007, 06:12 PM
not good, not that im planning on going abroad any time soon

bikemad
16-02-2007, 07:37 PM
Blimey dp's is out of date n mine is up soon so il tel him tomorow n reaply Monday for them!!!!!

sanjan
16-02-2007, 08:00 PM
oh great and I can't even afford the holiday abroad let alone geting the passport just incase

looks like I'll be stuck in this country without the chance to see other parts of the world

lisa1980
16-02-2007, 08:04 PM
oh great and I can't even afford the holiday abroad let alone geting the passport just incase

looks like I'll be stuck in this country without the chance to see other parts of the world

me too hun :kisshands:

Apri
16-02-2007, 08:20 PM
Thanks for tip - I can't afford a holiday either or the passport but if it saves loads of hassle - it will be worth it.
What about kids passports?

nicholamarie
17-02-2007, 12:32 AM
we are ok until 2010.

sanjan
17-02-2007, 01:17 AM
Thanks for tip - I can't afford a holiday either or the passport but if it saves loads of hassle - it will be worth it.
What about kids passports?

maybe so but when you have the cice between paying the bills or getting food or paying for passports then I know what I have to choose and the kids will just have to wait a bit longer and then get their own

emma_buzz
17-02-2007, 02:24 AM
dave need a new one and i suppose i had better get ella one as well just in case

Netty
17-02-2007, 12:35 PM
My passport is years out of date - can't afford a new one though, and no plans to use one yet either ...

Emsickle
17-02-2007, 02:22 PM
What about babies/childrens passports??

Liam (14months) is the only one in our family who hasn't got a passport and ours aren't expiring till 2010..

Edit: Just reading on bbc news : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6370627.stm

This applies to first time adult passports only, for which there appears to be a higher rate of fraud being committed with.

sanjan
17-02-2007, 07:42 PM
what is the betting that even after doing this they discover that it has not worked and that the passport fraud is as bad as ever.

I would that that if someone is determined to either buy or do fake passports that they will carry on regardless as the deterrents are probab;y not worth worrying about

Ravenfire
17-02-2007, 07:57 PM
Im going to get mine sorted this month!

Netty
17-02-2007, 08:42 PM
The BBC news article (link above) also states

From 2009, interviews will also be compulsory for the millions more people who apply to renew lost, stolen or expired passports each year.

From 2009, all those who want to renew their passports will have to visit one of the centres to have their fingerprints and photographs taken, in preparation for the biometric passport.

sanjan
17-02-2007, 09:43 PM
why does big brother is watching and 1984 spring to mind?

*debbie*
25-02-2007, 12:19 AM
I havent got a passport at all, mine ran out about 4 years ago...and because i knew i couldnt afford a holiday abroad or in uk i didnt renew it, as i couldnt afford to renew that either :hysterica
ahhh well no plans to go abroad, cos i cant afford to :party05:

Ravenfire
25-02-2007, 12:24 AM
I think I have only ever had a years one so not sure if I would be classed as a new applicant or not!

bikemad
25-02-2007, 12:37 AM
Picked up forms today for me,ds n dp to all renew ours.

loopychick
25-02-2007, 01:14 PM
i'm probably gonna get a lecture for this but honestly if it wasn't for ppl coming over here from other countries AND defrauding the goverment services and also the terrorisim threat too....ok i dont want to offend cos i know that majority of ppl that have moved here are not frauding but it's the fine few that spoil it for us that are genuine