Piggin CSA

[wkdfraggle]

I dont know whether any of you recieve CSA or have any experience with them but :hissyfit: :hissyfit: :hissyfit:

Because me and Arron live with Tim they have recalculated the amount that Tim pays his ex partner for his daughter. This amount has been reduced.

Last night Tims ex refused to let us have Ambur (we have her for a few hours on a wednesday night and every other weekend) because her money is going down. She has said he is not going to see Ambur again.

Tim was straight on to the CSA to find out what was going on as we had no knowledge of it.
No one seemed to know what was going on.
Today a woman who has been dealing with the case told Tim what had been happening and also that my case (which is between me and Arrons "father") would be being reavaluated and taken into account for Tims payments! WTF!!???!!

With me so far?

So basically money that i am meant to be getting for MY son from the parent who hasnt bothered with him for 5 and a half years, will be going to another child!
I am not ranting maliciously (sp?) or saying that i dont want Tims ex to be getting our money but why should MY sons money be taken into account for a separate child!

I do hope that i havent offended any of you if you are having difficulties with them yourselves. They are nothing but a PITA.

Just incase any of you are wondering i didnt want the CSA involved when me and my ex split. He was the one who insisted on it.

Rant over!

Simone
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[MrTempleDene]

I really do not unerstand the policies of the CSA, never dealt with them myself but everyone I know who have seem to have had bizzare problems with them. Thank god they're being shut down.

[wkdfraggle]

Not being shut down for another two years though. Basically another two years of them making peoples lives a misery! :angry-smi123

Simone
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[TopKat]

The CSA is a bunch of B*****KS! To be blunt, we have had to deal with them as dh's ex was committing benefit fraud, and as she was signing on we got hit for CSA payments. If she had been in bother, dh would of paid for the kid no problem, but it was the sneaky way that it was done that bothers us. We ended up 2 grand in debt, by the time the assessment was made, and had to struggle to pay that, our bills and in my case be very heavily pregnant. The inland rev also stopped our payments by mistake at the same time, which isn't taken into account by the CSA sowe had to continue to pay the maintenance.
Worse still, the ex didn't need or want the cash from the CSA, and was treating herself to overseas hols etc when we could hardly afford to eat.
Two years on, we are still paying and she is still signing on, depsite being caught redhanded for defrauding the benefit system for over 5 years. Hubby's daughter is about to turn 11, so we have quite a few years ahead of us to pay her yet. He doesn't see the kid ever. It turns my stomach when people use their kids to hurt others. Kids are people as well, some parents forget that and use them as pawns. I know I have a daughter from a previous relationship who next month, I won't have seen for 5 years. She lives with her Dad.
The CSA doesn't help families, it wrecks them. My dh had occasional contact with is daughter up until the CSA thing, then things got too hellish and everyone fell out. She lives quite far away and doesn't visit often. She is actually up this week, but he won't be seeing her. I blame his ex, if she hadn't been such a sneaky bitch none of this would of happened.
Sorry to hear about your probs wkdfraggle and I hope it all works out in the end for you. The CSA needs sorted out now, not in 2 years.
Apologies for the rant.
Fingers crossed that things get better for you in time.
:crossfing

[runragged]

OMG That is so wrong!

No wonder you're upset, I'd be absolutely livid, that's well out of order! :hissyfit:

[Jen]

I've never had dealings with them, but all the stories I ahve heard anre always nightmares. Think you both deserve to rant as much as you like

[ruthie]

Do you mean that Tim will pay less and thus have more money for the three of you and so your ex will have to pay you less as they are looking at as if Tim is now helping with the finances for your son? How does that mean that your childs money will be going to another child? Sorry perhaps I haven't read this properly. I'm not saying that this is right but is that what you mean?

[wkdfraggle]

No - they finally sorted out Tims new calculations after6 months of hassling them. He was meant to be paying slightly less(about £15 a week less). But now they know im living here they are going to take my csa money into account and so he will have to pay more - basically because i get money for my son.

Simone
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[ruthie]

No - they finally sorted out Tims new calculations after6 months of hassling them. He was meant to be paying slightly less(about £15 a week less). But now they know im living here they are going to take my csa money into account and so he will have to pay more - basically because i get money for my son.

Simone
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Oh that is so wrong, surely that is your sons money not yours so how the hell do they calculate it into the equation?

[wkdfraggle]

I know thats why i am so upset about it! Like i say i am not averse to her having the money its just that that is my sons money!

Simone
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[gemmum]

have to agree that CSA are sooo crap and you are right its your childs money not yours so should not be taken into account, why on earth should your child have the responsibilty of it's mothers partners kid. It's just daft.

My dh has a son who he sees every weds and everyother weekend too(coincidence!) and he pays csa, his ex is on benefits and seems to have more free cash than us. The whole system is seriously messed up. As far as i understand it as she is on benefits she can claim max £10 a week the rest goes to the goverement, again this makes no sense to me. Why should he be responsible for paying the goverment money for her not getting off her arse and getting a job, surely he should only have to pay the money that goes to his son.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Gemma

[Rhianydd]

I had trouble with csa as my DD are not my OH my ex owes me 4 grand and not seen a penny of it and he doent pay apenny for them and he doesnt have any contact with them
as far as some one on benifit the csa goes to the goverment if that person is working or not on benifits then it goes direct to the parent

[gemmum]

what is the logic behind the money going to the government if the parent is claiming benefits....surely the money is still intened for the child? why should the government get it?

[Shiraz]

I totally understand what you are saying!

I refused for the first 5 years of our relationship for dp to divulge my earnings and personal details to the CSA as i did not see why my wages should be taken into account for payments for HIS daughter. I bought her clothes and shoes etc, paid for her school trips anyway as we spread our money jointly! But i did not see why his ex wife should get extra as i was earning. Or that she should see exactly how much i earn.....(okay so it would show household income but wouldn't take a genious to work that out)

Anyway, when dd came along, they did not take her into consideration even though i had previously given them my details (as i was receiving maternity pay and then when she was 1 i returned to work). Anyway they said it was my fault that i fell pg and if we couldn't afford a child then we shouldn't of had one (cheeky assholes). As we could afford to have children - but they were taken far too much of dp's wages (at one point leaving him with £100 take home) and not leaving him with what they should of in the first place.

Then when i started to get tax credits they were taking them into consideration - which is rather annoying as wtc is there to support families with low incomes - is it not??

Now dp is not working they have sent him letters asking how much I can pay for HIS child....what on earth they think they are doing is beyond me..

You have my sympathies dear xxxxxx

[Shiraz]

Also what makes me laugh on dp's breakdown it says he pays a £42 carer allowance to his ex wife a week...

WTF....please can someone pay me that a week for looking after my OWN daughter!?

[paula]

im trying to get csa to get money of my ex hes dad to 4 of my 5 kids.
they first approached me 3 half years ago.then last year they sent me forms to fill out again hadnt heard any thing so yesterday i contacted them 2nd time this year to say ex was back living upnorth and buying his house.their reply was that no assesment has been made yet.
what a bunch of *******.

sorry

why should he get away with not providing for them?
he doesnt want to know them anyway and i know i wont notice the payments as im currently on benefit but it will put hole in his pocket!!!i think they the csa needs a real shake up they fail hundreds of kids..


paula

[Shiraz]

Paula i do totally agree.

It seems they are eager to chase dads who are supporting adn wanting to see their kiddies - and make their life unbearable.

Rather than actually helping to provide for children like your own. Every father should pay for his children.

He has to reply to what they send him though - if he doesn't there is no way they can get him without him filling in any forms.

Theyt can only take money by attatchment of earnings if he fails to pay what he has been assessed. Therefore no return of forms, means no assessment.

The structure and policy of the CSA really should be looked at more closely - as it's dads who don't have any contact, or financial support to their kids that they really need to concentrate on.

Likewise i think that mothers who stop their children from seeing fathers for no other reason than spite, or jealousy etc should be dealt with accordingly. (sorry whole different ball game there i know...). And wasn;t saying that you stp your kids from seeing there dad! But any father who chooses not to see his children is a loser - imho!